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. >> good morning, everyone, i'm ashleigh banfield live in sanford, florida. what a busy show we have ahead here. tragedy amid the arizona wildfire, a western heat wave that could be breaking records, okay, where i am live the george zimmerman second-degree murder trial continuing with evidence, people may not have expected they would hear. all of those stories coming your way, we are continuing our gavel to gavel coverage here. i want to beam you over to arizona right away, woo where an elite team of firefighters were
caught, 19 of them, all of them members of the so-called hot shot crew died tragically. this is a remark around stowe. what are his team members saying? >> reporter: if you talk to the firefighters here, they can't talk. the pio, when you ask a couple questions, he's overwhelmed, you have to realize, in this town, they lost twevent% of the firefighters in an instant. the firefighters are known as the hot shots. they are the ones you send to the hottest part of the fire the mane section. they dig the barrier between the wildfire and homes and people
they are trying to protect so the loss is beyond words. >> our entire crew is lost. we lost 19 people in this wildfire. it's one of the worst wildfire disasters that has ever taken place. >> the weather very erat ec, namely the winds, what they're experience here in the low humidity high temperature weather are these monsoon type winds. you can't predict them, so what they're expecting, these firefighters were surprised. they were overcome. they did deploy these fire shelters, these small tents. they have to look at why it doesn't work with these firefighters, ashleigh. >> so many dwoes answer, such a tragedy for everybody there i
also want to mention moments ago, break news here, the president speaking from tanzania about the firefighters and about this very tragedy. have a listen. >> one more reminder of the fact that our first responders, they put their lives on the line every single day and every time we have a community in crisis, a disaster strikes. we got people firefighters, law enforcement officers, they reason towards the danger, so, we are heard broken about what happened. obviously, we're prepared to provide any support we can in investigating exactly how this took place. i think we need to ask ourselves a set of broader questions about how we're handling increasingly deadly and difficult firefights.
>>. just a tragedy all around. the president continuing his trip in africa. by the way, a deadly heat wave which may be partially at fault tore what you witnessed. heat wave is forcing temperatures up to a painful 110 degrees. that's not all. in the southwest, the temperatures are going as high as 128, in fact, that's exactly what ed read in death valley this weekend. in case you are wondering what 1289 feels like, it's not hot enough to melt the soles of your shoes. >> reporter: ash leak, it's an overwhelming situation, when you step outside here in death valley the thermometers are showing it's hovering just under 110 degrees. it's still the morning. it will only get hotter. >> reporter: a deadly heat wave broils from texas to the western seaboard. >> it will scorch through your
body. >> a hiker died the sweltering temps may be to blame for the death of an elderly las vegas man. it's affected flights in arizona and california where dozens of small planes were grounded. >> it's 110 degrees, the air is thinner, the thinner the air the less lift on the airplane. >> reporter: animals are also feeling the burn. at the houston zoo, monkeys turn to cup size popsicles. in death valley the winds is more like a hair drier than a cool breeze. the high todays being sunday was -- >> was 128. >> that is very difficult. >> reporter: tourists are flocking at the chance to witness record breaking temps. describe how you are feeling. >> very hot. >> down here, it's not all too hot to handle. these two put the phrase hot enough to fry an egg to the test. >> it just tastes bad. >> did you really just eat that? >> i really did. it's not bad. >> the west coast has turned
into a life-like oven. these scorching temperatures aren't scaring people away. in fact. tourists are flocking from around the world in homes of witnessing record temperatures. ashleigh. >> tory dunn who was so busy over the weekend, i witnessed her frieg an egg on a pan on the sidewalk. it worked, someone ate it. by the way, this heat wave is not showing scenes of heating up. chad miers is better suited to that forecast than i am. i have to be honest, i don't know if i heard of temperatures here. i remember in baghdad, we mentioned 149 once, that was in the sun. we were working. this is unbelievable, chad. >> it truly is, the hottest temperature 134 in death valley. we will run at that the rest of the week i think. there is no ends in sight. even phoenix, there are a few people, dozens or hundreds.
115 degrees there yesterday. here's the problem, big high pressure blocking the air from shifting. the pat person won't move. we have this blocking high, all this heat bottled up here. the jet stream keeping the middle part of the country very nice. no one is complaining in illinois or indiana. that's going to stop. this whole jet stream making this part of the country cool will come up to the north. then the whole country will bakke the rest of next week. it will be a mess for everybody, even ray cross the east coast. rain showers across the east as well, we have heated a voirs, warnings across the west. literally, you can't take a chance leaving a puppy, a dog, a child in a car out west. it's simply that dangerous, windows up, windows down, it's hot out there. >> i will add to that, any day in a summer, you should not let
a person in a car with that heat advisory. when i lived in dallas, texas, we had 45 days. the temperature never dropped below 80. that's where it got lethal. because your body temperature, if you don't have ac orphans can't cool. is that what the issue is when it becomes deadly weather, you have to somehow get your body temperature low when you don't have those kind of opportunities? >> yeah, it's body temperature, the houses the condo the apartments aren't cooling down unless you have an air conditioner or a swamp cooler, if you are down to 90 or 85 degrees in the night the house doesn't cool down. by tomorrow, are you back up to 120 on the inside, that's where we lose people as well. if you are feeling hot, get to a shelter. there are plenty out there. ash league. >> it's amazing what a difference a fan can make. chad myers, keep an eye on that. correct am, correct, al information. also, we are here live
outside of the seminole county criminal justice center. zimmerman on trial is the headline. this is day six of a second-degree murder trial that has the country transfixed. it is a contentious point. who was screaming for help in the backgrounds? whose voice was it? two people were fighting, screams were heard. a neighbor jenna louder made that 911 call a. voice annan sis expert just wrapped up his testimony to what he thought about those sounds on that tape. he examined the tape. but he couldn't determine if the person screaming was trayvon martin, the 17-year-old teen ager or george zimmerman, the young man who is on trial for second-degree murder right now. i want to play part of that 911 call so you can listen to it for yourself. have a listen. >> does he look hurt to you? >> i can't see him.
i don't want to go out there. i don't know what's going on. >> ahh. >> do you need help? >> yes. >> it's just harrowing to hear that gun shot and how the gunshot silences all of the screaming, george howl is live here with me in sanford, florida. george, so much is being hung on that particular part of the tape. but what's so frustrating is that the samples are so small, no one with science in his or her back grouvendz could determine with certainty who it is, so where do you go from here? >> ashleigh, absolutely. when we talk about dr. nakasone, we are tauld called about a defense witness, he said several things we expected him to say, number one, the sample provided is not fit for comparison, also there is no what i to determine an age of the person screaming on that tape.
also, there is no methodology, no science to determine who is screaming on a tape like this. here's the thing, when the prosecution asks dr. nakosone, is it familiar for someone familiar with that voice to make that determination? he said yes. we heard from our legal analyst perhaps that can open the door for lay witnesses to come in like trayvon martin's parents to come in and say, hey, that's the voice of my son, possible. when we saw cross examination, we saw the defense go back to dr. nakasonement they questioned and made sure the jury is aware, number one, there is no science to determine screaming aed no way to determine the age of a person screaming on that tape. >> all right. what i want to do right now, since you brought that up, george, actually play that small reference of the tape. no one is missing the. the. they are at a brake.
we will get you back to trial. where that voice analysis expert was questioned about who is best suited to determine whose voice is on the tape. have a listen. >> so i get what you are saying is it would be better if you were attempting to a familiar voice identification have someone who has heard the potential subject here under a variety of conditions as opposed to simply say talking to the back and forth in a courtroom or a meeting or something like that? >> yes, sir. is correct. >> and that that would be about the best approach you could take given this particular sample? >> that's the prosecutor rich mante. the voice expert talking about maybe someone who is more familiar with the voices on the tape could testify to who was screaming. there are two sets of parents who are involved in this trial t. parents of trayvon martin and
the parents of george zimmerman. you don't see george zimmerman's parents, they were not allowed in court. they'll be witness. their testimony cannot be tent aed not so for the victim's parents both in the courtroom. i want to bring in our cnn analyst. mark, this is such a critical moment, because we had heard for a year those harrowing screams and i am a mother, you are a father, look, i could tell you definitively, i could recognize my children's screams. in the supermarket last weekend, i turned my head when someone else's child was screaming and thought it was my own. >> those are your maternal instincts. you think you know the reality is when someone gets older, that i have their voices change, we don't have the opportunity with those shisraelis, screaming screaming voice, when do you typically hear an adult go through that? the doctor is saying, you can't replicate that sound?
how do you take somebody on the ground the distance to make that recognizable? >> didn't you think he had a few seconds, 3.5 seconds of trayvon martin's voice to work with. they need somewhere around 30, so 16 science just gone by now? >> what the state is doing, it's clever of them. they lost that frye hearing. that was a cornerstone to have an expert say that was, in fact, george zimmerman's voice, we predicted they had to change up their game plan. what they ended up doing is taking a witness against them, now they made it for them. they are laying a found algs that there is no scientific evidence. but somebody who is familiar with that voice can come in. so you will end up seeing. >> you have two sets of parents, if you have sybrina fundamenton get up there and say that's may baby. when the defense gets its opportunity, they will have george zimmerman's mother and
father say that's my baby? >> exactly. this is the best the state has. this is all they have left. >> you get what you get. >> they are playing the cards dealt with them. they want to be able to take this situation, make it in the light most favorable for them. lay it out to the jury. >> it boded well for them last week. you know what, we don't gept the script your case. you take what you have. i have my eye on the live monitor. these are the moments where you get introductions and backgrounds. you will not miss any testimony. detective singleton is on the box on your screen. we will squeeze in a quick break. we will get to her testimony the minute she gets to the heart of the matter. hot breakfast
. >> we are getting back live into the direct testimony. they did an interview with george zimmerman, it was taped. she had a chance to speak to george zimmerman not long after the shooting. we want to hear exactly what her account of what the tore is. let's listen. >> so you were directed specifically not to go to the scene but to go to the actual police department. >> yes, i believe at that time i was already told that zimmerman was already en route to the police department. i didn't know who he was at the time. >> was he already present there? >> yes. >> if you could, do you see george zimmerman in the courtroom today? >> yes, i do. >> the person that just stand up? >> yes. >> let the record reflect the witness identified the defendant. >> the record will so reflect. when you came into contact with the defendant george zimmerman,
was he in an interview room there? >> yes, sir, george zimmerman was in an interview room. >> was there any officers present there? >> not in the same room, in a room where they could observe him. it has a two-way mirrored glass where you can see into the room, but he wouldn't have been able to see out of the room. officer adam johnson and officer tim my smith were there on the other sides of the glass watching him. >> yes, ma'am, did you briefly describe the interview room, how big would you say it is about? >> i would say it's maybe 8 feet by 5 feet, although i'm not good at measurementes. >> is there a table or chairs? . >> a table similar to the size of the table i'm sitting at now. >> did you end up talking to the defendant, george zimmerman? >> yes, i did talk to him that night. >> was your interview recorded in anyway, ma'am? >> yes, it was.
>> can you briefly tell us how it was recorded? >> on a voice reporter they give us. >> does that have the capability of video recording? >> it does. can you tell us why it was not videotape videotaped? >> even by law, an officer is not required that they are reporteding the video, did you inform him of that? >> i placed the recorder where he could see he was recorded as well. >> did you advise the defendant of his constitutional rights what is referred to as miranda rights? >> yes, i did. >> ma'am, i will show you what's been introduced into evidence state's exhibit 174, i believe there is no objection. may i approach the witness, your honor? >> you may. >> i will show you state exhibit
174. do you recognize it? >> i do. >> do you recognize it to be, ma'am? >> this is the miranda warning card that i read and george zimmerman signed that night. >> and was that miranda rights recorded? >> yes. >> the reading have been signed. >> did you ask the defendant whether you understood his rights, ma'am? >> yes, i did. >> did he indicate whether he uns understood them? >> yes, he did ask did he waive his rights that talk to you? >> he did. >> did he respond to your questions? >> yes. >> at any time during the investigation, did you threaten
the defendant in anyway to get him to make a statement? >> no, i did not. >> at any time, did you promise him anything in order to make a statement? >> no, i didn't promise him anything. >> in your prior experience, have you had occasion to come into contact with people under the influence of chal and/or drugs? . >> yes, very much. >> did the defendant appear to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs to the point he was capable of understanding what was going on? >> i did not get any indication that he was under any influence of anything. >> when he spoke to you, did he have any indication that he couldn't speak clearly. >>. >> he spoke clearly. >> did he have any indication that he didn't understand your questions? >> he never said anything. >> when you came in contact with him. did you notice injuries? >> yes.
>> did you discuss those with him, whether he needed medical treatment or not? >> briefly, yes? >> did he say he needed medical treatment? >> he said that he didn't, from what i recall when i first walked into the room, later on in the interview, he said he was not sure. >> okay. did you discuss that with him if he so desired medical treatment? >> yes. >> did he decline that? >> yes. >> did he decline of an injury, i can't think, i'm in pain, i can't think? did he ever express that to you? >> no, he never said that in that way. >> if he had done so, would you have intruchltd or stopped the interview and had him checked out in some way? >> if he'd have asked no matter mou he was showing himself that he wanted to go to the hospital, i would have made that happen.
>> ma'am, when you came into contact with him was that the evening of february tuitionth of 2012, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> and do you recall approximately what time you came into contact with him? >> probably somewhere between 8:00 and 9:00, but that would be a guess. >> okay. ♪ [ acoustic guitar: upbeat ] [ dog ] we found it together. on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk.
. >> detective doris singleton of the sanford police department is under direct examination by prosecutors in george zimmerman's murder trial right now. why? buus she hat in an interrogation room after the shooting of trayvon martin. he was not at the scene. she took what he said and recorded it. not on video, in audio. possibly we are about to hear that audio tape as well. let's listen in.
>> it should have happened, i'm going to read you your miranda rights. you are here. we have to figure out what really happen. so i'm going to ask to talk to you you ab your miranda warnings, as you understand. you have the right to remain sigh len. you don't have to talk to me. okay. anything you say can be used against you in court. if you say something that pushes your guilt make or proves your guilt. you have the right to have an attorney present now or any time in questioning? >> yes, ma'am. >> if you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you without any cost. if you talk to me, you have the right to stop answering questions or speak to an
attorney at any time. do you understand your rights? >> yes, sir. >> do you want to talk to me? >> yes, ma'am. >> put your signature, date it. >> this is being recorded. >> 221. >> today is the 26th. >> i witnessed you sign this card we will call the case. okay. i haven't been out there. okay. >> so i just want you to tell me. >> when you say you haven't been out there, what are you referring to, ma'am? >> to the crime scene. >> thank you.
>> before this incident everything you know while you were there, first of all, do you have a description, this license says that 1874 valleywood way, you no longer live there? >> next do you live in the complex or neighborhood where this occurred? >> yes. is there what's your address. >> 1950 owe glow is this the correct one? >> 1950 -- >> you tell me the story. you tell me what happened tonight. or whatever led up to this. anything you want to tell me about what happened or why it ended up what it ended up to. where this boy got shot. >> okay.
my wife saw our neighbor get broken into, she got scared. >> are you talking about the residence or vehicles? >> the residence while it was occupied. so i decided to start a neighborhood watch program in the neighborhood. >> what is the name again? . is it the two story condos? >> the townhouses. >> okay. >> retreat at john lakes. >> okay. you started a watch. >> okay. >> i was the coordinator. there has been a few times where i assumed a speshs person in the
neighborhood. we'd call police on a non-emergency line and these guys always get away. >> what made them spishts? >> this gentleman, in particular, i have never seen them in the neighborhood in all the residents, it was raining out. he was leisurely walking, taking his time, looking at all the houses. when i drove by, he stopped and looked at me. >> have you seen him before? >> no. >> i know all the kids in my neighborhood, all te aadults in my neighborhood, i guess it was raining. he was just walking casually, not like he was trying to get out of the rain. >> tell us what happened? >> sergeant santiago was still at the crime scene and he had trippedny nextel cell phone. he wanted me to find out --
. >> detective doris singleton on the stand, direct examination and her critical part of this story as she took george zimmerman's statement, maybe even more critical, she didn't know what went on. she wasn't at the scene. shelves at the pd, the police department. she took his interrogation rooms and recorded it, list listen. >> so he can look at the phone. >> moan phone meaning mr. zimmerman's phone? >> yes, his cell phone. >> leeland management, orlando the contact person is kent taylor? but he doesn't have the phone number on him. >> all right. >> what the sergeant will ask
. >> do you mind giving me your cell number? >> now at this point are you asking the defendant to find or look at his phone and get the phone number that he judd talked about? >> yes, i retrieved the phone, handed it to him, asked him if he wouldn't mind looking up the phone number the hoh president. >> what's his name? >> don. don. 403 -- --
>> thank you. >> what's going on now, are you displaying that information for the sorth santiago? >> yes, i believe i walked out of the room and relayed that information to nextel outside of the room. >> even though you walked out of the room, the recording was still going on? >> yes, the recorder remained inside the room.
played out. >> this is critical before the police come out. they know the name. >> these guys, who are these guys? >> the people coming in, the burglars. >> so you are seeing more than one person looking suspicious? >> yes, ma'am. >> you never did see this guy prior to tonight or? >> i don't recall. they play have records half a dozen times. >> okay. >> and this time i was leaving to go to the grocery store. like i said, i saw him walking in front of the same house that i had called the police before to come to because this guy leaves his doors unlocked and stuff. he was walking leisurely, looking at the houses, so i just pulled my car to the side and i
called the non-emergency line. >> were you armed at this point? >> yes, ma'am. >> you were or were you not? >> yes, ma'am. i called the non-emergency line. i just reported that there was a suspicious person in the neighborhood. the person that asked me where they went. i said i wasn't sure, i lost visual of him in between the house he said, can you tell me what direction you went? i said, not really. all of a sudden i see him circling my car. then he goes back into the darkness, so you are headed down the road? >> yes, ma'am. >> are you on the phone? >> he dips between two houses?
>> correct. he comes back out, circles my car while i was on the phone with police. as soon as i saw him come out, i rolled up the windows and stayed on the phone. >> your car was running, the lights were on? you said he seen you in your car? >> yes. >> is he walking completely around the car? >> yes. >> dispatch asked where he went. i didn't know the street that i was on. >> so you come off your street on to another street. >> he cuts through the middle of my neighborhood. i didn't know the name of the street or where he went. i got out of my car to look for the street signs to see if i could see where he cut through after he circled your car, he disappeared again? >> yes, ma'am. dispatcher told me, where are you? i said, i'm trying to find out
where he went. he said, we don't need you to do that. i said, okay. he said we already have a police officer en route. i said, all right, i had gone where through the dog walk where i normally walk my dog and walked back through to my street, the street that loops around. he said, we already have a police officer on the way so i said, okay. i told, they said, would you like a police officer to meet you? i said, yes. so i was walking back through to where my car was. he jumped out from the bushes. and he said -- and i got -- i don't have a problem. he says now you have a problem and he punched me in the nose, at that point i fell down. i tried to defend myself. he started to punch me in the face and i started screaming for
help. i couldn't see. i couldn't breathe and he started taking me. >> are you still standing at this point? >> no, ma'am, i fell to the ground when he punched me the first time. i didn't see him getting ready to punch me. as soon as he punched me, i fell backwards and hit the grass. then he grabbed, he was wailing on my head and then i started yelling "help." when i started yelling for "help," he grabbed my head and started hitting my head into -- i tried to sit up and yes, ma'am for help. he grabbed my head and started hitting me into the sidewalk. when he started doing that, i slid into the greece to try and get out from under him so he would stop hitting my head into the sidewalk. i still was yelling for help and i could see people looking and some guy yells out, i'm calling 911. i said, help me, help me, he's
killing me. he puts his hand on my nose and on my mouth, he said, you're going to die tonight and i don't remember much after that, i just remember i couldn't breathe and then he still kept trying to hit my head against the may have beenment or i don't know if there was a sign or what it was. so iuwhen i slid, my jacket and my shirt came up and when he said, you're going to die tonight, i felt his hand go down on my side. i thought he was going for my firearm. i grabbed it immediately. as he banged my head again, i pulled out my firearm and shot him. >> okay. then what happened? you are both on the ground? >> i'm on my back, he's on top of me, mounted on top of me. i just shot him and then he falls off and he said, all right, you got it. you got it. >> does he fall to the side and he stays laying on the ground?
>> yo-yo -- my vision was blurry and -- >> you felt him fall toward you? he somehow ended up -- or you don't know? >> i don't remember. i think when i shot him, it might have pushed him back. you be i remember, i didn't 43 what he was hitting. it felt like he was hitting me with bricks. i remember, once i shot him, my holster, my firearm, i got on top of him. he was still talking and i said, stay down, don't move. and then somebody comes out and i couldn't see, there was a flashlight to my head, i asked if it was a police officer and he said, no, it was a witness, but he was calling the police, i said, the police are on their way, they should be here already because i had called them and he's like i'm calling the police, i said i don't need you to call police, i node to you
help me with this guy. then an officer shows up. again, he had the flashlight, so i couldn't see him. and he asked me, who shot this guy? and i said i did. i immediately put my hands on top of my head. i told the police officer where my firearm was. then he cuffed me and took it from there. >> after you shot, he said, you got me? >> yeah. >> when you got on top, did he say anything else? >> he said, ow. you ted you were had walked back there to try to phoned out where he went. you said you called up and the whole time you were on the phone? >> yes. >> were you still on the phone when he jumped out and you had hung out? >> eyes. >> did someone else call before
the shot? heard someone saying i'm calling? >> yes. >> so someone else might have been on the 2009 with dispatch? >> yes. >> you had never seen this guy before? >> i don't recall. it's always dark. they come around nighttime. >> what did he look like? african-american early 20s, late 'teens. he was taller than me, so i would say 6-footish. slender build. >> did you know what he was wearing? >> yes, i gave description over the phone, a hoody, either sweat pants or jeans. >> all dark colored stuff. >> no, the hoody was grey t. sweat pants were like knee length. >> what was his hairstyle? you couldn't see?
>> no. >> all right. how is your head? >> i can't feel it. >> who told you? you said when i came in here they thought you broke your nose? they told you that. did you need to go to the hospital? >> i don't know. they said i didn't. >> is this bump, i can't tell what's normal for you. >> can you see, like right here, does this, does that look like an intrusion? it looks swollen? >> are you examining the side of his head at that time? >> i stood up to his side of the table to see all sides of his he head. >> the person who said i'm calling the police, did you
recognize that person? >> no, ma'am. >> you don't know if they were a resident? >> they were looking out their back patio. >> did you see more than that 'earn? >> no. >> you saw that person, they said i'm calling? >> yes, ma'am. >> nobody came over to assist in pulling him off. you were between two houses when this happened? >> behind the houses, the row of house, yes. >> so there was a row of houses, you had gone behind and you were on your way back out? >> yes. >> was there one house? >> would you like me to draw it? the neighborhood is like a square like this. then there is a row of houses, there is a wall, houses here a. row of houses here. >> this is houses, i parked my car here, mailboxes here.
he went through this dog walk here. you can either go down the sidewalk here in this row of houses or you can go straight through to this >> that's okay. >> this is asphalt. i walked through to see if there was a street sign that i could tell dispatch where i lost sight of him. when i walked back that's when he came out of darkness and i guess he was upset that i called the police. >> this is behind the house that he comes out of darkness? behind the building? you said there's some bushes he may have come out it. >> when i walked past i didn't see him. i walked through to make sure -- i looked to make sure he wasn't there. i walked straight through to see the stop sireet sign. when i came back he was waiting somewhere. >> where is your cell phone?
where was your cell phone? had you already had it back in your pocket? did it get dropped? >> i had it in my hand. when he -- when they said would you like to police officer to meet you, i said yeah. >> that's when they disconnected with you? >> yes. i put my cell phone away. when i walked back towards him, i saw him coming at me. i went to grab my phone. i don't remember if i had time to pull it out or not. >> you attempted to try to recall that. >> to call the police. you're not sure if you got it out of your pocket or not. >> no. >> that's when he slapped you. >> he just hit me. >> what did he say before that? he asked you something like do you have a problem. >> he said you have a problem with me. >> i said i don't have a
problem. >> that's what knocked you down? >> yes. >> you're saying this is behind the building? >> yes, ma'am. >> it's a patio. you said he's hitting your head on sidewalk. >> the sidewalk. >> there's a sidewalk behind. >> it's a dog walk. this is a row of houses and this is a row of houses. >> the dog walk is cement? >> yes. okay, that makes sense. he's hitting your head on the dog walk? >> yes. as i went to sit up he grabbed me. >> when you look either to your left or right you can see this guy and you're saying help me. >> i don't remember. i screamed help me probably 50 times as loud as i could. >> at some point you could see there was someone saying something to you from a patio? >> yes.
>> do you remember what that person looked like? the police got there. >> yes, ma'am. once the police got there i got on my feet because there was another person that got there. i guess a resident. i could see. he had a flashlight. i thought he was a police officer. >> at that point you got off him? >> yes. >> when the police got there i was already standing up. >> we're talking about seconds between the time you see the flashlight and the police show up? >> it's a while. >> they put you at gunpoint? >> i don't know. i put my hands on my head and i turned my back to them. >> okay. what were they saying to you, the police? >> he said who shot him? i said i did. >> you did this? >> yes, ma'am. i said i have my gun on my right
side in my holster. >> he said i know you do. i'm not going for any firearm. he put my arms out. >> where did they take you? >> here. >> they put you right in the police car? >> ems put peroxide on my head. they put it on my face to get the blood off. >> okay. >> anything else i haven't asked you or you haven't said? >> no. >> okay. you said you're in charge of the neighborhood watch. >> okay. you weren't doing it that night? >> no. >> driving out and you happen to see this kid and you want to check it out with him? >> yes. >> okay. you did the right thing. you called the police. >> yes, ma'am.
>> is that normally what you do when you see something suspicious? you don't try to make contact with them? >> okay. >> during that interview there was an indication that he was drawing something. is that correct? >> yes. there have a pad in there and he attempted to draw the location. >> did you use a google map to get him to draw that to demonstrate what happened? >> yes. it wasn't clear to me and i was confused as to where it happened and how the neighborhood was set up. i went and got a print out of the google map of the entire neighborhood and had him show me exactly what he was talking about using the map.
>> this is february 26th, 2012. again i'm with george zimmerman. you still have the right to remain silent. just want to ask you a few more questions. this is the neighborhood. >> this is with you've gotten the google map? >> yes. >> tell us how you got that. everybody noboknows about googl. >> i went on google and typed the street. when it showed it, i printed the page. >> did you actually use that to have him draw what's going on? >> yes. as he could tell me i would have him make markings on the map with a pen to show locations he's referring to. >> okay. >> we're talking about, right?
>> yes. >> can you put an x on here where you first saw the guy. >> right about here. >> right about there. this is the entrance, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> like that. this is where you first saw it. then you're drawing, where were you when you saw him? >> i was driving around here. >> this is where your car was. can you just write car right there. then you saw him here? >> yes. >> and then where did you go from there? when do you start calling the police? where are you? >> i pulled in front of the clubhouse. >> did you pass him? >> yes. >> he was here and you passed him? >> yes. >> put an x there that's where. put 911 because that's where you were when you called 911. >> it was the nonemergency number. >> that's where you called the police. >> yes.
>> then he's behind you. he's still over here. you pass him. >> right. >> this is where you still have him. where do you go when you realize -- you said he comes and circles your car? >> no. >> i lost contact of him. >> does he continue past you? >> yes. >> he continues past you and you lose sight of him over here? >> yes. >> just draw an arrow where he continues to pass. >> passes me through here. he goes here. >> he goes somewhere here where you can't see him. >> correct. >> go to where you think he might have been to where you lose sight of him. >> he started going here and behind this house. >> you could see that from here? >> yes. when he gets behind the house you lose sight? >> yes. >> at some point he comes back and circles the car. has he done that? >> he looked into my vehicle but he didn't circle it.
>> you're still on the car talking to 911. >> trying to get through. >> at some point you say he tries to come back. >> yes. >> he returns? is. >> i drive my car up here. >> to move your vehicle up to there. >> mark where you are. >> to there. >> that's where you parked. okay. you park here and then is that when he comes and circles your car? >> it might have been closer between here, these houses. >> you can move it. just move it. right around there. >> right around here. we're going to x that. you came around here and ended up here.
>> yes. >> you ended up here and is this when he circles your car? >> yes. >> he comes up from where? >> i don't know. >> you just notice he's circling your car? >> yes. >> you're still on the phone? >> yes. >> are you giving them a description? >> yes. >> where does he go when you liez lose sight of him? >> he walks back into the darkness. >> does he make the turn? you can be the see him? >> correct. >> you're still in your car? >> yes. >> then what happens? >> the dispatcher asks me what direction he went and what direction i was at. >> you don't realize what street you're on. you're trying to figure out what street you're on. you see him go here. what do you do? >> i got out of my vehicle to look at this house's address and see if it was a s